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Response to Sarah Soczka's Post on "5 Reasons Why @NewsHub is Better Than @BizJournalMke"

February 26th, 2009 | By Al Krueger | Posted In: General

When I arrived to my office this morning, I took a quick look at my Tweetdeck, which is a desktop Twitter application that I use, and saw this post by @artcity (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel’s arts, culture and architecture reporter, Mary Louise Schumacher. She also organized a recent Tweetup at Art Bar.):

So, I clicked on the link and read Sarah Soczka’s Post on “5 Reasons Why @NewsHub is Better Than @BizJournalMke.” It’s interesting reading – please take a look.

Now, my post here has little to do with whether Sarah, who works in PR for a Milwaukee-based firm, makes valid points in her argument. She does. Rather, it has to do with the following:

1) Is her post a fair comparison?
2) Should a PR person publicly be critical of a journalistic entity, especially in a smaller market like Milwaukee?
3) Is her post in line with the ideals of social media?

Let’s start with a note and a disclaimer. I am writing this because I am a pretty big advocate for Milwaukee, for PR and for social media’s use as a tool in the branding + PR picture. Beyond this, I don’t intend to throw any other Twitterers under the bus or Sarah either. I love seeing so many of our local pubs on Twitter! Let’s see some more! I wish only to raise some questions, offer my opinions and hopefully shed some light on this topic. As a note, I contacted the Journal Sentinel, the Business Journal and Sarah for comments.

Here are her comments: “First, I had no idea this thing was going to get so big. I see that you pointed out where I work. For the record, my blog does not represent any viewpoints of my agency and is purely my own opinion. [NOTE: This is my bad here. I apologize for mentioning where she works. She is right.] I hope it is clear that I am in no way denouncing either paper’s value only their use of Twitter. If I have got something wrong I will readily admit it and post a correction on my blog.”

1) Simply put, comparing @NewsHub to @BizJournalMKE is pretty apples to oranges. Each, in their current form, have very different objectives. I personally dig @NewsHub (Sharif Durhams). He does very well including personality and egaging readers. As a side note, The Business Journal and the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel were both bystanders in Sarah’s post. Sarah was likely trying to give kudos to a JS feed that uses personality and has been engaging (two things I highly recommend).

Sarah did confirm this, “I was mainly trying to give kudos to @NewsHub. I had been following both accounts and had noticed such a difference in their styles and truly appreciated @NewsHub’s use of Twitter. Like I was not trying to “beat up” or “slam” @BizJournalMke. Although it may have seemed harsh. In truth, both paper’s are excellent sources of news. If I didn’t believe that I wouldn’t follow either of them.”

I contacted Sharif to get his take on the post and the comparison, and I paraphrase it here: We patterned a lot of what we’re doing with @NewsHub after @ColonelTribune at the Chicago Tribune and @statesman at the Austin American-Statesman. We are still learning – we all are.

In my opinion, a more fair comparison for Sarah to make would be among the following: @BizJournalMKE, @js_biz and @BizTimesMedia. Each is currently focused on being a news feed and very useful.

2) This is one I’d love to hear comments from journalists and pr people. Over the last six months there have been many PR vs. Journalist/blogger memes that have floated through the social web. This is not one of those. However, in my opinion, being publicly critical of a journalistic entity should always be handled with caution if you are a PR person.

In PR, we work A LOT with a media and there are such thing as being black listed. I am not implying that any of our local outlets use these or would not cover a piece of news because of a conflict with the PR person. Rather, I’m saying in PR we need to have friendly relationships with media outlets and you never know how one or two might react to a critical blog post.

3) Social media is very new to everyone – especially traditional news outlets – and that’s cool. Each of us, no matter if we have 1,300 followers, 10 followers or nearly 190,000 like @lancearmstrong, started out not knowing what we were doing.

We all learned along the way. Many of us have received help, tips and guidance from others. Social media is very much about working together as a community – I’ve even made the point that it should be called “social we-dia instead of social me-dia.”

In additional, the Milwaukee Business Journal has only been on Twitter since February 10th – just over two weeks. The publication still has time to learn, evolve and grow and I know it will. The Biz Journal also has to deal with a national level organization that likely restricts many of its actions and potentially its use of social media. So, quite frankly, it might not be able to do much more than it is currently.

Just prior to posting, I received a note from Mark Kass, Editor of the Milwaukee Business Journal: “Our site is evolving every day as we just entered Twitter two weeks ago. I have been amazed at the response and the interest in what we are doing. It really shows again the amount of respect The Business Journal has in the community and people want to know what we have to report and say.

“We have a lot of internal interest in social media and Twitter and it is something you will be seeing a lot more of over the next several months as we continue to move into new areas. It is not your traditional media outlet and it takes time for those of us who work in the daily and weekly media business to learn the new rules and best ways to communicate our message. We are learning every day and I believe our offerings are improving. All of our reporters now have Twitter sites and we will begin promoting them in our paper tomorrow. They will be more interactive with their followers. We are looking at adding additional site for events and issues that will also be more interactive. I would encourage people to keep looking for our postings. They will be pleased with what they see.”

Sharif made a really great point when he added, “I think all of us in the mainstream media are trying to figure out how to use these tools. We’re learning from each other about how people want to get their news and interact with reporters.”

So, in conclusion, maybe I’m a total wuss, but I believe it’s very important to be cautious about what we each put on our blogs, on Facebook, in our Twitter feeds and elsewhere. Like Sarah said, “I had no idea this thing was going to get so big.” Let’s all work together to make everything we do even better – together! So, to all of the media outlets out there – keep it up. I can’t wait to see what comes next.

Also, cheers to Sarah for having an opinion and not being afraid to share it.

Al Krueger

Partner | Right Brain of Comet Branding + PR in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Host of Comet Branding Radio. Covers progressive branding, marketing, PR 2.0 and social media topics.

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  • http://rasterweb.net/raster/ Pete Prodoehl

    1. Do comparisons have to be fair?
    2. Everyone should be critical of journalists/journalism.
    3. Yes.

    Remember this newbies… when you post something publicly on the internet, you are publishing to a worldwide audience. Instantly, you are a publisher, and you cannot control what happens to what you publish. You can try, but you will most likely fail. Hey, that sounds a little like PR!

  • http://twitter.com/larsma larsma

    Interesting thoughts. I appreciate that you took the time to get comments from all involved parties. To respond to your points:

    1. I believe that given the title of Sarah’s blog, “A 20-Something’s Perspective,” her post was absolutely fair. Sarah spoke of why she enjoyed one set of tweets over another based on how they engage and relate to her specifically. I do not think that anyone can disagree with me on this. I also do not think that her post should be labeled as a “slam” on the Biz Journal’s Twitter feed.

    2. While I agree that PR and other “visible” professionals must be aware of what they are saying and to which audience, this is nothing that we haven’t heard before. Would you be equally vocal about Sarah’s comments if she were to write a letter to the editor of one or both of these publications? Twitter and personal blogs are just another way of expressing one’s opinion that may potentially motivate change. In this specific case, I don’t think her profession matters. I also understand that you are illustrating the thin line that the PR folks/news folks walk, but in this case, I do not believe that Sarah’s approach was biased (except to the aforementioned blog title.)

    3. I believe that her post is in line with the ideals of social media. Social media doesn’t always have to be something that makes everybody look “good,” and was designed to allow people to share their opinions, no matter what they are. Take for example the Cash4Gold situation. Nobody is jumping to the aid of Cash4Gold because someone blogged about their negative experiences and opinions on the service.

    I would also like to point out that the Biz Journal has 152 followers and over 200 posts. Yes, one could think of 2 weeks as a short amount of time, but these numbers are certainly not as small as a ‘newbie’ could be. It only takes a few minutes to discover what other media outlets are on Twitter in Milwaukee and a few more to investigate what they’re doing.

    Lastly, in defense of the Biz Journal’s tweets (I also left this comment on Sarah’s blog), the Biz Journal may have felt that an RSS feed is appropriate to the readers they are trying to target.

    As you said, social media is still “new,” and there are no hard and fast rules for it, nor do I ever think there will be. For now, we can just continue to learn and grow from the experiences and use them to better ourselves.

  • http://milwaukee.decider.com Ryan Thompson

    Al,

    As always I appreciate your insights into social media and not being afraid to take the time to pull out the biggest names possible whenever you get the chance.

    IMHO PR + Media is edging towards transparency but as both Pete and Larsma point out, there is much more at play here than the digital tattoo’s that rest in the arms of the internet.

    For instance, each content provider has his or her own personality and their particular avatar may try to convey a different perspective. A branded Twitter account is going to tweet very differently from a personal one. A 20 something different from a news hub, a twitterfeed differently than one punched into an iPhone.

    So as we learn together, and learn that what we write will likely be seen by curious eyes, it would then perhaps be wise to think of ourselves not only as extensions of our avatars, but also as our avatars, as extensions of ourselves.

    Hint hint: So even if you think you can keep yourself clean online, somewhere sometime, someone might remind you of your own words online or offline. Such as calling PR tools “social we-dia instead of social me-dia.” or “I owe you a cup of coffee” yet, even so neglecting to respond to this fairtrade fellow’s last several attempts to collect that cup of coffee you said you owe me.

    Perhaps I’ll post about how their isn’t really right or wrong, just carving the identity of noble content.

    Or better yet… perhaps I’ll just remind us all of that scene in Better Off Dead where the diligent don’t forget and the paperboy always comes to collect.

    Al – In any case, enjoyed your article, hope you enjoy the video, and still wondering if your like me and drink decaf.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXIBjo8gWEE

  • VP of PR

    As a PR professional in the Milwaukee area, with more than 10 years of experience in this discipline, I respect Sarah’s thoughts and admire her enthusiasm. And no, I don’t work at her agency.

    The beauty of engaging in social media is that you are free to express your personal opinion. It is up to the other viewers to agree or disagree, or completely disregard postings. And the beauty of living in the USA is freedom of speech.

    I think Sarah’s action is a sign of her passion for what she does… she was brave enough to declare her opinion. That can be scary enough for any individual. I respect her even more for her courage to share a personal opinion that may be unfavorable to some.

    Go Sarah.

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